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Forum: Speaking and Listening 28th April 2008, 07:30 AM

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多 - tone change from duō to duó?

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Posted By skylee


Re: 多 - tone change from duō to duó?

The dictionary says it is used as an adverb (which is what the character "副" means) and
pronounced duó in exclamation and to express doubt. Examples are "How nice!" ("多好"), "How
hard it is to bring...



Forum: Speaking and Listening 27th April 2008, 05:25 PM

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多 - tone change from duō to duó?

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Posted By skylee


Re: 多 - tone change from duō to duó?

Some of the posts in this thread are relevant ->
http://www. /showthread.php?t=22937

Also take a look at the dictionary of the Taiwan Ministry of Education (the same dictionary...



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Forum: Speaking and Listening 22nd May 2008, 05:29 PM

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standard mandarin

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Posted By yonglin


Re: standard mandarin

If you study at a university, chances are that you'll run into Chinese people from all over
anyway. This is very good. It would be crap if you could only understand very standard Beijing
Mandarin and...



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Forum: Chinese Tattoos, Chinese Names and Quick Translations 14th May 2008, 02:43 AM

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tattoo

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Posted By jfranco


Re: tattoo

Also a Chinese character can mean different things in different contexts and a single character
can often be ambiguous. I have seen women who have had the character 信, which can mean many
things. It...



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Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 10th November 2007, 09:10 AM

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Random new word of the day

Views: 16,271

Posted By studentyoung


Re: Random new word of the day

贝嫂?It reminds me of 月嫂. Haha!
月嫂: married mid-aged female baby-sitter who might have experience on taking care of new-born
babies and are hired to help those new mothers when they’re 坐月子.

Cheers!



Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 24th October 2007, 11:11 AM

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Random new word of the day

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Re: Random new word of the day

http://cache.baidu.com/c?word=%CA%B2%C3%B4%3B%BD%D0%2C%B1%BB%2C%BA%D3%D0%B7&url=http%3A//zhidao%2Eba
idu%2Ecom/question/36700908%2Ehtml&p=8a66dd0485cc42b404bd9b7e0e59&user=baidu

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Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 1st October 2007, 02:36 PM

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Random new word of the day

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Re: Random new word of the day

Yes.

For more details, please check the link...



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Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 15th May 2008, 09:11 PM

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Guò in the song "Kanguolai"

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Posted By calibre2001


Re: Guò in the song "Kanguolai"

The title of the song, when translated, is loosely the equivalent of saying ‘ Hey girl who lives
opposite, look here/look at me/us!’

Yes ‘guo’ can denote a sort of past tense, but not really in this...



Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 15th May 2008, 06:07 PM

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Guò in the song "Kanguolai"

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Re: Guò in the song "Kanguolai"

guolai is a word meaning 'come over here' or 'over here' in this case. Thus kan guolai means 'look
over here/ look towards here'.



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Forum: Reading and Writing 10th December 2003, 12:27 PM

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Most complicated chinese character seen?

Views: 5,870

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I always thought the character for...

I always thought the character for "turtle" was the most complicated (at least in the traditional
form). It is made difficult by the fact that it is a single radical.



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Forum: Reading and Writing 29th September 2004, 02:10 PM

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Any help with the Seal Script characters?

Views: 9,263

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Hello Nina, You might want to know about this...

Hello Nina,

You might want to know about this site , a project of hypertext-daodejing with explanations and
seal-script :
here (http://home.debitel.net/user/wulf.dieterich/index.html)


If you know...



Forum: Reading and Writing 9th July 2004, 04:21 PM

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Any help with the Seal Script characters?

Views: 9,263

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fantastic database...

fantastic database !
http://www.internationalscientific.org/chin_home.aspx

thanks

Ole



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Forum: Reading and Writing 25th December 2007, 11:52 PM

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請勿使用在他站相同的帳號和密碼

Views: 423

Posted By chenpv


Re: 請勿使用在他站相同的帳號和密碼

站 is short for 站点(儿), a casual way to refer to 'website'. So the Chinese sentence
goes: Please do not use the same ID and password for other websites.



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Forum: Reading and Writing 9th March 2004, 01:39 PM

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Should I Learn Mandarin or Cantonese

Views: 8,843

Posted By smithsgj


> my recommendation is that you'd start from...

> my recommendation is that you'd start from standard mainland mandarin

Just glanced up and noticed the title of this thread. Not bad advice from Calvin there actually.



Forum: Reading and Writing 9th March 2004, 12:55 PM

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Should I Learn Mandarin or Cantonese

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也不會啦 :wink:

也不會啦 :wink:



Forum: Reading and Writing 9th March 2004, 12:12 PM

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Should I Learn Mandarin or Cantonese

Views: 8,843

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Calvin, 台灣的男人跟女人都有娘娘腔嗎? 什麼怪道理呢? Skylee,...

Calvin, 台灣的男人跟女人都有娘娘腔嗎? 什麼怪道理呢?

Skylee, 好聽跟不好聽的定義, 趕快告訴我們啊!



Forum: Reading and Writing 5th February 2004, 09:03 AM

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Should I Learn Mandarin or Cantonese

Views: 8,843

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Why, is he short as well?

Why, is he short as well?



Forum: Reading and Writing 3rd February 2004, 09:57 AM

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Should I Learn Mandarin or Cantonese

Views: 8,843

Posted By smithsgj


Is it the way they speak or sing that is...

Is it the way they speak or sing that is supposedly inaccurate? I should have thought it would be
a bit difficult to tease out tone handling from a song. Oh, all right, maybe neutral, but not
the...



Forum: Reading and Writing 3rd February 2004, 09:23 AM

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Should I Learn Mandarin or Cantonese

Views: 8,843

Posted By smithsgj


> with beijing accent, u could travel around...

> with beijing accent, u could travel around everywhere in china(except the HK), with contonese
accent u' d get a laugh in everywhere(except the HK).

Hate to disappoint you Wennie but people in...



Forum: Reading and Writing 2nd February 2004, 11:59 AM

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Should I Learn Mandarin or Cantonese

Views: 8,843

Posted By smithsgj


> Cantonese is only used in Hongkong. Come...

> Cantonese is only used in Hongkong.


Come again? Cantonese is used in HK, parts of China and all over the world if you please.



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Forum: Reading and Writing 12th April 2006, 03:28 PM

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Poll: Traditional vs Simplified characters

Views: 9,390

Posted By doumeizhen


(from MCLC mailing list)

Here is a petition against the decision of the UN to abolish the use of
traditional Chinese:

http://www.gopetition.com/region/237/8314.html

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Personally, I am unclear why they...



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Forum: Reading and Writing 14th September 2004, 09:08 PM

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Teachers who teach Traditional Characters?!! Why?

Views: 10,715

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To understand the motivation behind the...

To understand the motivation behind the simplification of characters, I think you have to go back
to the time it happened (and earlier), which is almost another world now.

Some possible angles to...



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Forum: Reading and Writing 16th August 2007, 11:29 PM

Replies: 77

I Hate Hanzi

Views: 8,444

Posted By zozzen


Re: I Hate Hanzi

Indeed it is. Many ancient Japanese documents were written in Wenyan, whose grammar largely didn't
exist in any spoken language. Turning our clock back to a more modern years, we can still see
Kanji...



Forum: Reading and Writing 16th August 2007, 12:38 AM

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I Hate Hanzi

Views: 8,444

Posted By zozzen


Re: I Hate Hanzi

Yes, in this century, the characters can't really help Chinese speakers understand modern day
Japanese text much, because the modern use of Kanji has been limited, katakana is so popular,
many...



Forum: Reading and Writing 14th August 2007, 08:17 PM

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I Hate Hanzi

Views: 8,444

Posted By zozzen


Re: I Hate Hanzi

"To use Chinese characters" and "To use Chinese characters to write Mandarin as lingua franca"
shouldn't be mixed up. Brushed away political bias, Mandarin is only one of the Chinese
"dialect"...



Forum: Reading and Writing 13th August 2007, 08:55 PM

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I Hate Hanzi

Views: 8,444

Posted By zozzen


Re: I Hate Hanzi

Had there anything called "European characters" , "pictogram" or non-phonetic scripts, which had a
loose relationship between spoken and written language, European might have a single set of
written...



Forum: Reading and Writing 11th August 2007, 10:43 PM

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I Hate Hanzi

Views: 8,444

Posted By zozzen


Re: I Hate Hanzi

I get used to whine about learning language too, but my targets are european languages. While
French, Italian, Spanish, Romanian share many common vocab and similar grammer rules, spellings
are just...



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Forum: Reading and Writing 9th April 2004, 11:03 PM

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an article talking about simplified and traditional chinese

Views: 5,868

Posted By Quest


I support simplification, but there should be...

I support simplification, but there should be room for discussion on how we simplify each
character.



Reading speed is definitely not a problem. however, I tend to agree that some strokes are...



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Forum: Reading and Writing 22nd November 2005, 02:05 AM

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Chinese in purely phonetic script

Views: 10,715

Posted By nipponman


Ok, I see your point. kunrei accent is better for...

Ok, I see your point. kunrei accent is better for showing the underlying grammatical functions of
words etc. However, can we agree that these grammatical underpinnings are rarely necessary
(except,...



Forum: Reading and Writing 21st November 2005, 07:58 PM

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Chinese in purely phonetic script

Views: 10,715

Posted By nipponman


In japanese this is not the case. It will sound...

In japanese this is not the case. It will sound awkward, but you should be understood, unless you
randomly blurt out はしが あかい です。 Which seems unlikely. Furthermore, if you
aren't concerned with it,...



Forum: Reading and Writing 21st November 2005, 07:09 AM

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Chinese in purely phonetic script

Views: 10,715

Posted By nipponman


If it is 100% hiragana, then the words will...

If it is 100% hiragana, then the words will already be spaced. Otherwise, there is no way to read
it. Justlikeifyouhadanallromajisystemandyoutookoutthespacesitwouldbehardtoread. Also, do you
find...



Forum: Reading and Writing 9th August 2005, 04:48 AM

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Chinese in purely phonetic script

Views: 10,715

Posted By nipponman


. That's a little steep. When I was in...

.
That's a little steep. When I was in Highschool, I learned that English has 600,000 words approx.
I don't think that it is feasable to for English to have 5,000,000+ words.

Do people use words...



Forum: Reading and Writing 8th August 2005, 02:29 AM

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Chinese in purely phonetic script

Views: 10,715

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Dang. Ok, scratch that, bad example. :lol:...

Dang. Ok, scratch that, bad example.


:lol: You know you're contradicting yourself, right?



Forum: Reading and Writing 7th August 2005, 11:44 PM

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Chinese in purely phonetic script

Views: 10,715

Posted By nipponman


I don't want to drag this discussion out, but I...

I don't want to drag this discussion out, but I think this sentence kinda proves my point:
結構特點。詞或短語構成句子。 Now, look at huo4. It is clearly serving as Huo4 Zhe3,
I am not sure that in literate writing...



Forum: Reading and Writing 7th August 2005, 10:24 PM

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Chinese in purely phonetic script

Views: 10,715

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True, I don't think Shibo intended this to become...

True, I don't think Shibo intended this to become a back-and-forth kinda thing.

Yeah but I think I know him from somewhere.
Anyway we are way off topic. I think we have basically covered all...



Forum: Reading and Writing 7th August 2005, 10:14 PM

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Chinese in purely phonetic script

Views: 10,715

Posted By nipponman


You seem kinda antagonistic Dennis, do you need...

You seem kinda antagonistic Dennis, do you need some sleep or something? Why not wait 'till the
discussion is over first, then bug everybody in a pm?(just kidding) Seriously though, we are
trying to...



Forum: Reading and Writing 7th August 2005, 09:59 PM

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Chinese in purely phonetic script

Views: 10,715

Posted By nipponman


To Dennis>むさしとは? To me, kanji is always...

To Dennis>むさしとは?
To me, kanji is always better, then hiragana, then romaji. But I can read in all of them.
This might sound weird but, when I first started learning Japanese (and Chinese as well) I...



Forum: Reading and Writing 7th August 2005, 09:26 PM

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Chinese in purely phonetic script

Views: 10,715

Posted By nipponman


Erm, I don't know if you noticed or not, but this...

Erm, I don't know if you noticed or not, but this is all a response to a genuine question about
Chinese. And though there have been movements on the romanization of both languages, that is not
really...



Forum: Reading and Writing 7th August 2005, 09:21 PM

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Chinese in purely phonetic script

Views: 10,715

Posted By nipponman


Not sure I quite understand. Right, if...

Not sure I quite understand.



Right, if you're to have a pinyin system tone marks and those kind of things are very important.
Fen1 wei2 is right, but he2 cheng2 is in my dictionary, NJStar,...



Forum: Reading and Writing 7th August 2005, 07:20 PM

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:clap You got it right. I didn't intend to put...

:clap You got it right. I didn't intend to put those extra "test" words in there either!

Sorry shibo, but this wasn't random. I wanted to see if people could read a text in pinyin with as
much...



Forum: Reading and Writing 7th August 2005, 09:04 AM

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I got the article online (can't remeber where)...

I got the article online (can't remeber where) and quickly wrote it up in kana, it was originally
in kanji though.




Glad you agree, Sky..

Too bad I missed out on much of the discussion. I'll...



Forum: Reading and Writing 5th August 2005, 07:35 AM

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タイプミス(げー)しましたよね。日本人を書きたかったが。。。

タイプミス(げー)しましたよね。日本人を書きたかったが。。。



Forum: Reading and Writing 5th August 2005, 03:26 AM

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Posted By nipponman


This has already been answered actually. I don't...

This has already been answered actually. I don't know where though.



Forum: Reading and Writing 5th August 2005, 03:10 AM

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Kanji definitely. Again, it is takes more time to...

Kanji definitely. Again, it is takes more time to figure out the words. Sure if I were to see:
わたしはにほんじです。Or even Watashi wa nihonji desu. I would be able to read and
understand about as fast as if...



Forum: Reading and Writing 5th August 2005, 02:47 AM

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Posted By nipponman


definitely.

definitely.



Forum: Reading and Writing 5th August 2005, 02:33 AM

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I'm sorry, I gave up before the end of the first...

I'm sorry, I gave up before the end of the first sentence. That is an eyesore.



Forum: Reading and Writing 5th August 2005, 01:45 AM

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I hope you don't mind me asking then, are you a...

I hope you don't mind me asking then, are you a native speaker gato?
You'd thnk that native Cantonese would be able to read a phonetic script a little better than
would a mandarin speaker. This a...



Forum: Reading and Writing 5th August 2005, 01:40 AM

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Thanks skylee for the info. I got so caught up...

Thanks skylee for the info. I got so caught up that I forgot to thank you.



Forum: Reading and Writing 4th August 2005, 08:29 PM

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Good point. I notice that when I read something...

Good point. I notice that when I read something to see if it is useful or not, I just skim through
it catching the characters and seeing what is going on.



Forum: Reading and Writing 4th August 2005, 07:39 PM

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So, you're saying Quest and Skylee don't know...

So, you're saying Quest and Skylee don't know enough chinese? They tried to read a pinyin thingy
and found it difficult. Not because pinyin is more practical, but because it is just harder to
read....



Forum: Reading and Writing 4th August 2005, 08:45 AM

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It's much more than emotional attachment, believe...

It's much more than emotional attachment, believe me. I am not natively asian, so I don't think I
would care one way or the other had I not began learning kanji over 7 years ago.
This problem exists...



Forum: Reading and Writing 4th August 2005, 04:15 AM

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I still don't think that a purely phonetic script...

I still don't think that a purely phonetic script would work. When I say "work", I mean it
wouldn't be effective, feasable, easier, etc. I.e it would have no benefits. Characters, convey
meaning. You...



Forum: Reading and Writing 3rd August 2005, 08:01 PM

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I thought this was an old thread for some...

I thought this was an old thread for some reason...

No, you're wrong on that. Because, unless you're just spouting off words for no reason (which
people rarely do), you'll have a context to what...



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Forum: Reading and Writing 17th June 2004, 08:26 PM

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The character I mentioned is in the Sursong.ttf...

The character I mentioned is in the Sursong.ttf font included in Office XP CHS and in "Office
proofing tools" and standardized by the Unicode organization. Sure, the purpose of this font is
to...



Forum: Reading and Writing 17th June 2004, 04:00 PM

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I didn't. I just gave [女巽] because it does not...

I didn't. I just gave [女巽] because it does not seem to have many strokes or to be too
complicated, and its splitting into parts is simple (everything is relative...) and is a character
I am actually...



Forum: Reading and Writing 16th June 2004, 11:59 PM

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Like the Messiah? Romanized Vietnamese has...

Like the Messiah?

Romanized Vietnamese has already been invented by Jesuits to propagate Holy Messages to Vietnam,
so it may be God's will to save our soul (and much more) from those devilish ...



Forum: Reading and Writing 16th June 2004, 10:56 PM

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Vinh as in vinh viên (everlasting,...

Vinh as in vinh viên (everlasting, eternal)
trng = dai (long) as in "Van Ly Trng Thanh" (Great Wall)
Even if a Vietnamese doesn't know Chinese characters, he should understand this...



Forum: Reading and Writing 28th May 2004, 02:04 AM

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He he; I think Pazu should have used Yue4 Ju1 越剧...

He he; I think Pazu should have used Yue4 Ju1 越剧 as a better example :wink:

He may have been influenced by Vietnamese usage; for the Vietnamese also use Viêt ng 越语
as a synonym for tiêng Viêt...



Forum: Reading and Writing 27th May 2004, 04:17 AM

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In Han Viêt: 反貪污 phan tham ^o 不合法活動 b^at hp...

In Han Viêt:

反貪污 phan tham ^o
不合法活動 b^at hp phap hoat d^ong
防預貪污 phong d tham ^o
公共關係 c^ong c^ong quan hê

These Han Viêt transcriptions, though a little too much formal or solemn for a...



Forum: Reading and Writing 19th May 2004, 04:05 PM

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Posted By nnt


You're right, but I was adding something to Ian...

You're right, but I was adding something to Ian Lee's posts above...

This discussion concerns ideographic characters as a writing system, not just for Chinese standard
Hanzi and mandarin, but also...



Forum: Reading and Writing 19th May 2004, 03:16 PM

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I think that dmoser is objectively right saying...

I think that dmoser is objectively right saying that "Chinese characters are harder...even for
Chinese", but just practically and psychologically wrong because he touches an emotional chord.

The...



Forum: Reading and Writing 16th May 2004, 02:48 PM

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Pazu: What I've written is not an opinion, just a...

Pazu:
What I've written is not an opinion, just a Devil's advocate observation...



Forum: Reading and Writing 16th May 2004, 12:51 PM

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I think dmoser has forgotten the main reason for...

I think dmoser has forgotten the main reason for defending Chinese characters:

because they are harder, even for Chinese!!!

In the good old past, when the scholars sect ruled, characters were a...



Forum: Reading and Writing 15th May 2004, 09:42 PM

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Posted By nnt


t^oi = 碎 sui4 (Han Viêt toai )"used...

t^oi = 碎 sui4 (Han Viêt toai )"used as" t^oi . It's a Chinese character used phonetically
to transcribe a Vietnamese sound (like kun reading in Japanese)

The same for 過 / 过, guo4 (Han Viêt qua )...



Forum: Reading and Writing 15th May 2004, 04:36 PM

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Posted By nnt


Just read Pazu's post above about the six ways to...

Just read Pazu's post above about the six ways to invent characters, and you'll see how to
memorize a little less ...

Btw, Pazu:

The N^om characters in your post (after the link to your photos)...



Forum: Reading and Writing 15th May 2004, 03:20 AM

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I don't think these examples are relevant for our...

I don't think these examples are relevant for our comparision purpose.
You never memorize a multiplication table of 200x200. A human being would rather memorize 8
"elementary" multiplication...



Forum: Reading and Writing 10th May 2004, 02:16 AM

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Posted By nnt


What about typo mistakes using characters? Some...

What about typo mistakes using characters?

Some are very funny. This one I'm copying/pasting from an e-book edition of the "Three Kingdoms" :



meaning : the 7 warring states of the week-end...



Forum: Reading and Writing 8th May 2004, 03:33 AM

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Pazu: In the past, neither Han t (Hanzi) nor...

Pazu:

In the past, neither Han t (Hanzi) nor Ch N^om were "popular" in Vietnam for the simple
reason only a few (the scholars) could read/write Chinese characters.
Han t was the official...



Forum: Reading and Writing 7th May 2004, 05:59 PM

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Posted By nnt


Pazu: This is clearly untrue. Ch N^om, although...

Pazu:
This is clearly untrue.
Ch N^om, although non-standard, has been used under every Vietnamese dynasty (and the kings
were the first one to use them, even the most conservative ones) since it...



Forum: Reading and Writing 7th May 2004, 05:07 PM

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Posted By nnt


Ala: I find this discussion quite interesting,...

Ala:
I find this discussion quite interesting, because it was exactly the case with Vietnamese.
Vietnamese ch N^om [字字] 喃 was character-based. The word ch is Vietnamese, while
t 字 is Han...



Forum: Reading and Writing 6th May 2004, 11:55 PM

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Posted By nnt


Pazu: I'm surprised. This is the first time I've...

Pazu:
I'm surprised. This is the first time I've ever heard this. :shock:
I think it's subjective or a matter of training: if you spell at each word, or if you don't read
many books, yes, but still...



Forum: Reading and Writing 6th May 2004, 02:01 PM

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Posted By nnt


Vietnamese has no inflection at all, whether in...

Vietnamese has no inflection at all, whether in ch n^om or in latinized transcription, and
will not develop it. Reversely, Japanese has inflection, although Kanji is heavily used (and
Romaji very...



Forum: Reading and Writing 6th May 2004, 04:40 AM

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I would say: it's just as difficult (or as easy)...

I would say: it's just as difficult (or as easy) to explain what kind of flower 玫瑰花 is, or
"rose". If I don't have a picture to point at and say "this is a ..." (玫瑰花 or "rose"), it
would be just as...



Forum: Reading and Writing 5th May 2004, 01:40 PM

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I think this phenomenon occurs in any language....

I think this phenomenon occurs in any language. Even a renowned writer writing in his native
language has a few words he would always involuntarily spell or write wrong (in case of a
Chinese...



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Forum: Reading and Writing 1st March 2006, 05:31 PM

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Can someone please check my translations?

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Can someone please check my translations?

Hi, I had to do this for my Chinese class, and although it's not too difficult, I was made to use
sentence structures we'd just learned, like "potential complement"
因为。。。所以。。。“ etc...so could someone...



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Forum: Reading and Writing 20th August 2005, 03:04 PM

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That wasn't a duplication but end of one and...

That wasn't a duplication but end of one and beginning of another:
学生在大学学习汉语 - 大学 = University, 学习 = study



Forum: Reading and Writing 19th August 2005, 07:24 PM

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Japanese Kanji

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I'll just add my 2 cents, I think it wasn't...

I'll just add my 2 cents, I think it wasn't mentioned that Japanese and Korean grammar are very
different from Chinese, not sure how Japanese were able to read classical Chinese, I think they
would...



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